{"id":2531,"date":"2021-06-10T10:20:36","date_gmt":"2021-06-10T08:20:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/i360.trejka05.pl\/?p=2531"},"modified":"2021-07-16T12:33:25","modified_gmt":"2021-07-16T10:33:25","slug":"transcript-of-iso-iec-27001-information-security-for-loyalty-schemes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/i360.com.pl\/en\/transkrypcja-iso-iec-27001-bezpieczenstwo-informacji-programow-lojalnosciowych\/","title":{"rendered":"Transcript \u2013 ISO\/IEC 27001 Information security for loyalty programmes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN:<\/strong> Katarzyna Nawrocka, \u201eOn loyalty schemes at night\u201d.<span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\">The security of the loyalty programme management software developed by i360 is one of the main pillars of our growth. Today, I am delighted to welcome Rafa\u0142 Malon, with whom I will be discussing the key challenges in ensuring information security. Good evening.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Good evening.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Rafale, we\u2019re going to be talking about information security. But before we do, I\u2019d like to ask you to tell us what the Malon Group, of which you\u2019re the CEO, does.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes. We specialise in implementation projects, consultancy projects and training programmes relating to management systems. In the broadest sense. There are a great many management systems on the market. We cannot say that we specialise in any one in particular; we support businesses that wish to achieve certain outcomes and results that these management systems provide. This includes, amongst other things, ultimately obtaining a certificate confirming that their operations comply with a specific management system or management standard.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>As for this certificate, I\u2019m asking because, off-camera, we had the pleasure of discussing the fact that you\u2019ve had audits both yesterday and today \u2013 some behind you and some ahead of you. So I take it that this is how you operate \u2013 you check what the safety assurance system is like at these companies?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes, we assess the current situation within companies and, if we identify any discrepancies or gaps in relation to the standards and the requirements set out within them, we then launch a project aimed at ensuring compliance. In other words, we implement all these requirements, and the solutions that stem from them, into the day-to-day running of the organisation. So, once we have identified any gaps or discrepancies, we carry out all the necessary measures to ensure compliance. Next, of course, we must verify whether this has already been achieved before an independent body arrives to check whether compliance is, in fact, in place or not.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>The website of the company you run shows us just how many different areas you cover. We\u2019ll also find plenty of abbreviations there that we could demystify today and explain to our viewers, so that they can navigate them and understand them.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>I suppose the key term used there \u2013 though it\u2019s hard to call it an abbreviation \u2013 is, of course, ISO. ISO refers to the standards and specifications issued by the International Organisation for Standardisation, which is very often referred to simply as ISO. Alongside this committee, or rather, this committee often collaborates with other committees such as the IEC. This is the committee responsible for standardisation at an international level in the fields of electronics and electrical engineering. One such example of a standard issued by both of these standardisation committees \u2013 that is, by ISO and the IEC \u2013 is ISO 27001, which sets out the requirements for an information security management system. However, there is a very large number of standards setting out requirements for management systems. Of course, these organisations do not deal solely with management systems, nor are they limited to standardisation in this field. They also deal with standardisation in areas such as technical matters relating to products, processes and services \u2013 in fact, virtually everything imaginable. As an organisation, ISO has already published several thousand standards that are recognised worldwide. On our website, you can also find many other abbreviations and terms. These very often stem from the nature of a particular standard, or serve as a way of identifying it, setting out the requirements that must be met by a given organisation. Other abbreviations or terms that you may come across on our website relate to information security. Of course, there is also the term \u2018GDPR\u2019. The GDPR, which you have already discussed in one of the episodes.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Let me just interrupt you for a moment to say that we\u2019ll post a link to this episode below so that our viewers can watch it too. And I\u2019m really glad you\u2019ve seen it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Of course, absolutely. Yes, the GDPR \u2013 and, of course, not just the GDPR, but also our entire national legislation \u2013 is also linked to information security, which is, of course, geared towards the protection of personal data. But we have other terms as well. One term that comes up is \u201eTISAX\u201d \u2013 is an assessment method, an assessment system developed by the German association of manufacturers in the automotive sector, the aim of which is, in fact, to ensure certain standards for information processing and data processing, and to guarantee their security specifically within the automotive sector. Specific to the automotive sector. This standard is entirely consistent with the aforementioned ISO 27001, as it is, in fact, based on that standard. It has simply been expanded to include these specific features. There are many other terms as well. These include, for example, standards developed by various associations. Take the TAPA standards, for instance \u2013 these are supply chain security standards. They cover security in road transport, for a start, as well as security in warehousing. All these abbreviations and terms are explained in detail on our website. There are so many of them that we wouldn\u2019t be able to list them all here.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Just to make it clear, we\u2019ll show you a chart in a moment with these abbreviations and explanations.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\">Of course.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Nowadays, a loyalty scheme cannot function without an IT system. How can the developers of such a scheme ensure security?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes, the concept of security and information security is a very broad one here. We must bear in mind that, in traditional parlance, the term \u2018security\u2019 is very often understood to mean solely confidentiality, which is in fact just one aspect \u2013 one of the three main aspects \u2013 as we also have to deal with the other two, which are equally important: availability and integrity. After all, what\u2019s the point of having highly secure data if, for example, the system operators of this loyalty scheme cannot access it because it is too heavily secured? So availability is just as important, as we would be unable to carry out our core business activities. And then there is integrity, understood in the broadest sense as the reliability, consistency and non-repudiation of this information. What\u2019s the point of having information available to those who need it to carry out their professional or official duties, or to participants in these loyalty programmes so that they can access, for example, information about their account? What is the point of having this access, or of ensuring confidentiality \u2013 that is, protecting this information from outsiders and third parties \u2013 if, for example, the information in the system is distorted, unreliable or inconsistent? You get out what you put in. So, in reality, all three of these aspects must be guaranteed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>So we have security, integrity and availability.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\">We have confidentiality, availability and integrity.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Thank you for clarifying that.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>And now, when we\u2019re actually developing this type of software \u2013 in fact, even at the stage where we\u2019re defining its functionalities \u2013 the company has already defined those security-related functionalities, those features that this software should have, aimed at ensuring security in precisely these three aspects. Availability, confidentiality and integrity. Why at this stage? Because it is essential to avoid a situation where the programme is developed \u2013 a superb system is created \u2013 and only then do we add certain security functionalities and elements to it. This must be planned for at the pre-design stage. It must then be incorporated during the design phase, when all these functionalities are defined in great detail. And, of course, during the subsequent stages of software development and maintenance. So what has been done \u2013 and what should always be done \u2013 is to pay attention at this very stage, when we are only just approaching the subject, rather than waiting until the programme or system is ready.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>There is no need to convince anyone of the importance of security. But what are the main components of such a system?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes. As I have already mentioned, these are the three fundamental aspects of information security: confidentiality, availability and integrity of that information. However, if we now focus on the specific requirements that must be met here, these are set out in the ISO\/IEC 27001 standard. We explained these terms and abbreviations right at the start. They simply indicate who issued the standard. And now this standard has its own structure of requirements. This structure of requirements is characteristic of all recently published ISO standards that focus on any kind of management system. They follow a 10-point structure. This structure has grouped the requirements into appropriate thematic blocks. First and foremost, the sections listed are those requirements that must be met in order to understand the organisation, so that the organisation can understand itself, its environment and, indeed, its context. All external and internal factors that have, or may have, an impact on the management system, as well as the interested parties. And the requirements and expectations of these interested parties, which should be met within the framework of this very management system. With this information, we can then proceed to the risk assessment. A risk assessment both from the perspective of information security and in terms of the information security management system\u2019s ability to achieve its objectives. So we have the next stage, whilst all these issues are covered within this planning phase. In other words, we are really only just preparing to define our management system. Having established the foundations, we move on to implementation; that is, based on the results of the risk assessment, we have identified what changes need to be made within our organisation. Naturally, we also take into account the requirements of the ISO 27001 standard. With all this information, we draw up security policies, procedures and guidelines. In essence, we define the internal regulations we must comply with. Whilst, of course, also taking into account the requirements of those stakeholders I mentioned earlier, as well as the relevant legislation. Let\u2019s remember that, after all, legislation on the protection of personal data is very important in the case of loyalty programmes, as a great deal of such data is processed there. Once we have implemented what we planned \u2013 that is, we have a plan and the internal regulations resulting from this planning process \u2013 we must then put in place mechanisms that will allow us to determine whether what we are doing actually complies with what we set out to do. So we need to put verification mechanisms in place, such as internal audits. This approach verifies the compliance and effectiveness of the management system, but we also need to look a little more closely \u2013 we must verify the effectiveness of the individual safeguards we have implemented as part of this system. In other words, we check whether the backup copy we created in accordance with the backup policy actually enables us to recover, for example, the system or the resources covered by that backup copy. There is a great deal that could be said about assessing the effectiveness of these security measures. I would also refer you to a very worthwhile read on this subject: the ISO 27001 standard. Among the activities aimed at verifying this system, there is another measure that is very important for management systems \u2013 a process characteristic of ISO-compliant management systems known as the top management review. In other words, from time to time, on a regular and planned basis, top management must examine the outcomes achieved by the system and the results of individual actions \u2013 their own actions. And it must determine whether this system remains useful to it, whether it is appropriate to the situation in which the company finds itself, and whether it meets its expectations. And, of course, what is characteristic \u2013 and I will repeat this again for all ISO systems \u2013 is continuous improvement. It cannot be the case that, once a system has been introduced, it provides us with such safety that we no longer need to do anything about it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Let me ask: is that precisely the aim of these audits \u2013 to check whether a given system is adequate, but also to see how we can improve it?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes, that too, of course. That is certainly the role and purpose of these internal audits. However, let us bear in mind that these opportunities for improvement should also stem, for example, from the information we gather from our wider environment. Technology is evolving; we should keep pace with that technology, and we should ensure that our security measures are appropriate and effective in light of these technological developments. So this continuous improvement is, in fact, something that must be implemented by the organisation. We must constantly develop our system; we must simply keep improving.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Rafale, how would you describe the role of information security management within a company?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>It is becoming increasingly important, if I may put it that way. Why? It is clear how the way businesses operate \u2013 or, more generally speaking, the way organisations operate \u2013 has changed over the years. Just think of how much information is currently being processed, not least because, to a very large extent, this data is processed electronically. Given that we have an ever-increasing amount of this data, we must also ensure it is properly secured. After all, we are not focusing solely on personal data \u2013 which has been the most high-profile issue for some time now, namely the GDPR and the protection of personal data \u2013 but when discussing information security, we must identify all information that is significant to the organisation from the perspective of strategy, development, from a business perspective \u2013 such as trade secrets. And it is precisely this information that we should protect. Protect, as I mentioned, by ensuring appropriate confidentiality so that this data does not fall into the hands of people who are not authorised to access this information or these data. But also to ensure that staff responsible for specific areas have access to it so that they can carry out their work. And, once again, as we\u2019ve already discussed, we have: confidentiality, availability, and also integrity \u2013 so that the data and information we use in our operations are reliable, consistent, accurate and not distorted, ensuring that the results of our activities are of the appropriate quality. And the results will always be commensurate with the input we have.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Let\u2019s move on, then, to the objectives of ISO 27001.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes. Objectives and standards set out the requirements for an information security management system. And there is more that could be said here about what the objectives of this information security management system are. I would put this proactive approach to management at the top of the list. Namely, the approach I have already mentioned. First and foremost, we should identify what could go wrong within our organisation. We need to identify all possible vulnerabilities, all possible breaches and incidents relating to information security. And then do everything we can to counteract them. Naturally, our first priority should be to eliminate these threats, but if we are unable to do so \u2013 because, after all, we have to carry on with our business operations \u2013 then we simply cannot. If we wanted to protect ourselves completely, we would simply have to cease trading. That would not be consistent with our business objectives, so at this stage, if we are unable to eliminate them, let us reduce the level of risk \u2013 in other words, let us put measures in place that will, first and foremost, reduce the likelihood of these adverse situations occurring. And if there is nothing more we can do here either, then let us at least consider what we can do to minimise the consequences should this undesirable event materialise. Finally, if we are unable to do anything further, we must simply accept a certain level of risk. This is a proactive approach \u2013 this is what we should focus on above all else. However, of course, there is also another objective of this system. When an undesirable event does occur \u2013 because only those who do nothing make no mistakes \u2013 If they do occur, we need to have a properly prepared response in place. What might such a response look like? Let\u2019s consider, for example, situations that receive a lot of media attention. A fire in a server room somewhere, or a data breach somewhere. So let us have procedures in place which will allow us, in the first instance at least, to restore operations to normal as quickly as possible \u2013 that is, to activate our business continuity plans in this regard \u2013 and in the second instance, let us endeavour to minimise the impact of the incident that has occurred. If data is leaked, we must ensure that the people affected by that data \u2013 for example, if it is personal data \u2013 do not suffer the consequences. Or, at the very least, that we minimise any harm that might befall them. So this response \u2013 this reactive, post-event approach \u2013 is certainly also essential from the perspective of an information security management system.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>I\u2019d like to offer a brief summary, because we\u2019re at risk precisely because we\u2019re taking action and because technology is advancing \u2013 as you\u2019ve already mentioned. Well, that shouldn\u2019t stop us from taking action, provided we have a very well-prepared contingency plan.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes, you could put it that way, certainly. But let\u2019s remember that a contingency plan is a last resort, and we should, above all, focus our efforts on prevention \u2013 in other words, on ensuring that it doesn\u2019t happen in the first place.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>To ensure that this plan is not implemented.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes, because let\u2019s just consider, for example, i360\u2019s operations \u2013 the portal itself that we have. After all, this portal serves some very significant clients, and it also manages the loyalty programmes for those very clients. It is, after all, vital that neither the reputation of these clients nor, ultimately, that of i360 is damaged. So a great deal of effort has been put into this \u2013 and continues to be put in \u2013 primarily to prevent incidents from occurring in the first place. And that is, without a doubt, the fundamental objective of the information security management system. But of course we also have contingency plans in place in case something goes wrong \u2013 for example, if the system were to become unavailable \u2013 to ensure that its full functionality can be restored as quickly as possible, so that the business objectives of both i360\u2019s clients and i360 itself are maintained.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Let us also clarify whether the ISO standard applies to the software or only to the manufacturer.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM:<\/strong>\u00a0It is true that one might infer from my earlier comments that the standard applies to software, but under no circumstances does it apply solely to software-related issues as they arise at i360. In this case, the company has adopted the view that the ISO 27001 standard applies to all of its operations. This means that it also applies to activities relating to the design, development and maintenance of this software, as well as its delivery to business partners. However, the standard has a broader scope, as it also covers, for example, information constituting trade secrets, as well as the personal data of employees working for the company and its associates. In fact, it covers all data and information relevant to the company\u2019s operations that must be processed in order for the organisation to function at all and achieve its business objectives.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Rafa\u0142, I\u2019m wondering whether, now that I have ISO certification, I can feel safe and sleep soundly. What I mean is, we need to clarify whether we can equate ISO certification with secure software.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>That would be ideal, but of course it isn\u2019t. Why? The standard sets out requirements. These form a sort of framework that still needs to be fulfilled. So, when implementing an information security management system, we must meet these requirements, but in a way that is specific to us. A way that is specific to the size of our organisation and the complexity of our assets. In fact, all kinds of resources and information that we use in our operations. Can we say that having a certificate \u2013 well, because we must also mention that certificates of compliance with this standard are issued by various certification bodies \u2013 is enough? Take i360, for example: it has held this certificate for several years now from one of the most recognisable and reputable certification bodies. And at this point, it certainly cannot be said that this certificate proves that this standard is the very highest, or that nothing bad can happen to us. Firstly, an audit is always carried out using a sampling method; in other words, the auditor who visits verifies a certain sample based on, for example, documents, records or interviews with staff. This means that they do not carry out a comprehensive inspection. They carry out an investigation; they carry out an audit. Secondly \u2013 let\u2019s bear in mind what I\u2019ve said. It\u2019s not the case that once a system has been implemented \u2013 once we\u2019ve implemented this system \u2013 we\u2019re then done with it, we can rest on our laurels, and nothing bad will ever happen again. By no means. Everything is constantly changing. Our environment is changing. Technological developments \u2013 and I\u2019d like to emphasise this point \u2013 mean that we must not merely keep up, but should strive to stay one step ahead. So, in line with the requirements of the standards themselves, we must constantly improve and develop our system in order to prevent undesirable situations from arising; and yet, unfortunately, it often happens that something does occur, as I mentioned. And that is when these response plans come into play.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>And how long does it take to implement a security system like this? Perhaps you could explain, step by step, how it\u2019s done and how long it takes.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Of course. It obviously also depends on the size of the organisation, as the situation will be different for a small firm with just a few employees, a single location and most of the data it processes \u2013 perhaps even still in paper form these days. It will be quite different, when we have a multi-site organisation, with a larger workforce, where such volumes of data are processed \u2013 as is the case with i360, for example \u2013 and this data consists of personal data classified as \u2018special categories\u2019 which are indeed subject to this specific level of protection. So at this stage, it all depends. How short could the implementation period for such a system be? To be honest, it would depend on the extent to which the organisation already meets the requirements of the ISO 27001 standard from the outset. It is precisely for this purpose that an initial audit and a gap analysis are carried out first, so that we can identify what is in place and what is missing. Once an inventory has been carried out, and based on this information, we are then able to determine how quickly this process can be completed. Of course, it is also possible to outline a preliminary framework for such a project based on certain key information \u2013 the organisation\u2019s specifications \u2013 but the project schedule can only be finalised in detail following this preliminary audit.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>I asked you to explain it step by step, so can we safely say that this first step is precisely this stock-taking exercise?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes, that initial audit, that gap analysis, that inventory. Exactly. Next, you need to ensure that the staff involved in this project are aware of what\u2019s going on and have the necessary knowledge \u2013 in other words, give them a bit of an overview of what we\u2019ll be doing and the direction we\u2019ll be taking. And, as I mentioned later, we need to plan the system \u2013 that is, to consider the organisation\u2019s context, define it, and identify all the external and internal factors that do or may affect our system and our organisation. Identify the interested parties \u2013 that is, those stakeholders who may present us with certain requirements, or who may have a role to play in our information security management system. And, with regard to this data, carry out a risk assessment \u2013 an information security risk assessment, or what we refer to as a \u2018systemic\u2019 risk assessment \u2013 to determine what could go wrong that might prevent our system from achieving the planned outcomes. Once we have carried out this risk assessment, based on these results and taking into account the requirements of the ISO 27001 standard \u2013 particularly the security requirements set out in Annex A of that standard \u2013 we draw up the necessary internal regulations; that is, we introduce procedures and policies and guidelines to ensure that it is clearly defined exactly how things are to be carried out, so that the level of security is adequate. This ensures that the level of risk does not exceed the acceptable risk level. Once the documentation has been drawn up and implemented \u2013 and this is where the entire team, in fact, plays a very significant role, as does senior management, because it is always their responsibility to ensure that staff, that the company\u2019s employees, are engaged in this process, that they are aware of the threats, and aware of how important it is to apply these information security regulations, a cycle of training and a range of activities must simply be provided to ensure this awareness. And once we have achieved this \u2013 although in reality it is a continuous process, it never ceases \u2013 of maintaining and developing this awareness \u2013 we can proceed to check whether, as it currently stands, the system meets the requirements of the ISO 27001 standard and, if this is the organisation\u2019s objective, whether we are ready to undergo this external audit, this certification audit. Once the results indicate that this is indeed possible, and that when the external auditors arrive there will be no embarrassment or slip-ups, then of course these auditors are invited, and they come to they carry out the acceptance of the system; that is, as I mentioned, they use a sampling method to verify the system\u2019s compliance. They verify whether the system is achieving its planned objectives and whether the planned results are being achieved. And if everything is in order, the certification body awards the relevant certificate.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>And that is precisely the final step \u2013 the acceptance process. But as we keep saying, this is not a process that ever ends, because we have to keep improving it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes. And this is where the role of the certification body actually comes in handy, so to speak, as it exercises constant oversight of the system. \u2018Constant\u2019 might be too strong a word, but at least it is carried out on a regular basis. It visits periodically to carry out so-called verification audits and supervisory audits. It checks whether anything has gone wrong in the meantime, whether the system is indeed still being maintained and improved as it should be, or whether something has gone wrong.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Rafale, what role does the certification body play in this whole process?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>The role of the certification body in this case is to carry out an independent \u2013 fully independent \u2013 verification of compliance to ascertain whether the management system that has been implemented meets the requirements of ISO 27001 and whether the system is effective. This is because these audits are carried out to check both the compliance and the effectiveness of the system \u2013 in other words, whether the system is achieving its intended objectives. The certification body, as I have mentioned and would like to emphasise \u2013 which is independent \u2013 carries out a verification audit. The first is known as a certification audit. The certificate of compliance awarded as a result is valid for a period of three years. We are, of course, referring to ISO 27001 certificates. It is awarded for a period of three years; however, the validity of this certificate is maintained only if the organisation to which it has been awarded undergoes periodic surveillance audits, i.e. the auditors from the certification body are granted access and permitted to carry out such a surveillance audit after a period of twelve months and a further 12 months of the management system\u2019s operation. After these three years have elapsed, but before the certificate expires, the company must decide whether to renew, reinstate or extend the certificate \u2013 whichever term we choose to use here. And if the decision is in the affirmative, then a recertification audit is carried out, which marks the start of the next three-year cycle for maintaining this certificate. From there on, the process is exactly the same: further surveillance audits, followed by another recertification after three years \u2013 because it is worth noting that this management system at i360 was actually certified several years ago, and if we were to compare this system with what it was before and what it is now, the changes are truly radical. Yet the standard itself has not changed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>All right, then. So we\u2019ve now implemented the ISO 27001 standard, passed the audit and received the certificate. What next? Is a certificate like this valid for life?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes. And as I did indeed mention, it is awarded for a period of three years. At the end of those three years, the company decides whether to extend the validity of the certificate and undergo recertification, or not. However, I would like to touch on one more important point here: what to do. Well, we\u2019ve implemented it and obtained certification \u2013 what can we do with it now? Because talking about continuous improvement can sound a bit hollow, but what should we actually do as part of this continuous improvement? Here, too, we have tools provided by ISO \u2013 the International Organisation for Standardisation \u2013 such as other standards in this series. ISO 27002, in turn, sets out how the security measures outlined in the annex to ISO 27001 can be implemented. Methods of implementation and ways to develop the security measures actually used within the company. It makes for good reading and provides useful material on precisely how we could improve our information security management system. But let\u2019s bear in mind that once a certificate has been awarded, this does not mean it will remain valid forever. Every certificate states its expiry date. So, if we want to verify whether our business partner holds a valid certificate, we should examine it \u2013 ask them to show it to us \u2013 as this will tell us either when it expired or when it is due to expire. Unfortunately, in this day and age, when progress is truly so rapid, we must bear in mind that if we obtained a certificate five years ago and it was valid for a period of, say, three years \u2013 until, let\u2019s say, 2019, then a great deal could have changed during those two or three years.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>And finally, I get the impression that you\u2019ve answered my last question. That\u2019s because I wanted to ask in which directions a company that has successfully achieved such certification should develop?<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Yes. As I mentioned, you can use the tools available, but the most important thing here is to monitor our environment and the developments taking place. To identify whether there are any new vulnerabilities. Vulnerabilities that could be exploited by threats, thereby leading to an undesirable event, a security incident or a breach of personal data \u2013 as I mentioned, this is currently a topic receiving a lot of media attention. So let\u2019s bear in mind that this improvement involves not only responding to the changes that occur, but also paying attention to how we can use this system to deliver business results and achieve business objectives. In other words, what could we streamline or perhaps speed up to ensure that our business actually grows? One such example is business continuity plans and what has recently been done within the company. The time taken to resume operations in the event of network infrastructure problems has been significantly reduced. In other words, the recovery time has been drastically cut should the risk of a failure \u2013 in this instance \u2013 actually materialise. The solutions that have been implemented have reduced this time by a factor of two or even three. This demonstrates that, following such an undesirable incident, the company is able to recover and return to normal operations two or three times faster.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>Rafale, thank you very much for the interesting conversation and for clearing up all my doubts.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM: <\/strong>Thank you.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>I\u2019m saying to you: see you later.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>RM:<\/strong> See you later.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><strong>KN: <\/strong>And I\u2019d like to invite you all to the next episode.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 0pt; padding-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 1.6; text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; height: 1em;\"><span style=\"display: none;\">.<\/span><\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>KN: Katarzyna Nawrocka, \u201eOn loyalty programmes at night\u201d... 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